10 Dec 2024
Lords Chamber
Guns Manufactured by 3D Printers
  1. ANALYSIS

Structure and Content:
The Lords Chamber debate focuses on concerns regarding 3D-printed firearms in the UK, driven by technological advancements. Speakers questioned governmental measures, legislative gaps, and emphasized parallels with international incidents involving such weapons.

Key Policy Terms and Legislation:

  • Existing firearms legislation targeting illegal firearm manufacture and possession.
  • Mention of a Private Member's Bill, hinting at prospective statutory amendments.

Named Entities:
Debate participants include:

  • Lord Harris of Haringey (Labour)
  • Lord Hanson of Flint (Labour)
  • Lord Hogan-Howe (Crossbench)
  • Baroness Doocey (Liberal Democrat), among others.

Main Points and Statistics:

  • In 2023, UK law enforcement seized 25 instances of 3D-printed firearm components.
  • Discussion highlighted the legal dichotomy of possessing or distributing prohibited weapons, indicating life imprisonment for manufacturing/distributing such weapons.

Technical Terminology:

  • "FGC-9" as a reference is a controversial 3D-printed firearm model guide available online.
  • "Hybrid weapons" indicating firearms created or modified with 3D-printed components.

Related Parliamentary Business:

  • Debates allude to forthcoming opportunities for legislative review via the potential police and crime bill.

Political Positions and Policy Stances:

  • Speaker consensus suggested enhancing scrutiny over internet-accessible 3D firearm schematics.
  • Encouragement for legislative tightening to address non-legislative technological developments.

Departmental References:

  • Implicit responsibilities and interests of the Home Office concerning firearm regulation.

Key Dates and Timeframes:

  • 2023, marking the recent confiscation statistics.
  • Upcoming legislative session as a venue for reviewing existing laws.
  1. SPEAKER POINTS

Lord Harris of Haringey (Labour, Life Peer):

  • Raised concerns over the spread of 3D-printed firearms in the UK.
  • Cited international incidents to emphasize urgency.
  • Questioned government action to restrict access to 3D-printing schematics. Highlights: "Is it an offence to download such a manual?"

Lord Hanson of Flint (Labour, Life Peer):

  • Provided statistics on firearm seizures by law enforcement.
  • Stressed legal repercussions of possessing or manufacturing prohibited weapons.
  • Suggested legislative review: "We will look at those issues... during the course of this Session."

Lord Hogan-Howe (Crossbench, Life Peer):

  • Raised technical progression from plastic to metallic 3D-printed guns.
  • Proposed banning of 3D printing software imports: "Would it be wise to consider banning the software..."

Baroness Doocey (Liberal Democrat, Life Peer):

  • Critiqued reliance on a Private Member's Bill for legislative reinforcement.
  • Called for urgent government intervention: "Does the Minister accept it is not good enough to rely on a Private Member’s Bill..."

Lord Browne of Ladyton (Labour, Life Peer):

  • Focused on hybrid weapons and the need for comprehensive legislative amendments.
  • Highlighted the National Crime Agency's calls for legislation to manage firearm modifications and components.

Lord West of Spithead (Labour, Life Peer):

  • Stressed the importance of controlling ammunition, hinting at future technological risks with 3D-printed bullets.

Additional Points:

  • The debate revealed cross-party concern, stressing unity in government actions.
  • Emphasis remained on technological adaptability of current laws to match evolving threats of 3D-printed firearms.

Key Contributions

Original Transcript
Lord Harris of Haringey

To ask His Majesty’s Government what assessment they have made of the number of guns manufactured by 3D printers circulating in the United Kingdom.

The Minister of State, Home Office
Lord Hanson of Flint
Lab

I am pleased to tell my noble friend that no viable fully 3D-printed firearms have been found by law enforcement in the United Kingdom. In 2023, there were 25 instances where police seized 3D-printed component parts or other items associated with 3D printing of firearms.

Lord Harris of Haringey
Lab

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for that reply. He will have seen the reports this morning that the person who supposedly shot the insurance executive in New York was carrying a 3D-printed weapon.

He will be aware that the firearm of choice for young men in Australia and New Zealand is now a 3D-printed weapon.

He will be aware that it is possible, by searching for FGC-9 on the internet—I apologise for offending the sensibilities of anyone in the House, but FGC stands for “Fuck Gun Control”—to get detailed manuals of how to make a 3D-printed firearm.

What is being done to stop the circulation of such manuals? Is it an offence to download such a manual, as it would be in other circumstances?

Lord Hanson of Flint
Lab

I can tell my noble friend that it is an offence to manufacture and distribute a prohibited weapon, such as a handgun or semi-automatic rifle, however it is manufactured. That carries a sentence of life imprisonment.

The maximum penalty for possessing such a prohibited weapon, including any 3D-printed prohibited weapon, is 10 years’ imprisonment with a minimum penalty of five years.

We will keep legislation under review and there will be opportunities during the course of this Session to review that legislation in relation to any issues that might need to be brought forward.

Lord Hanson of Flint
Lab

I am grateful to the noble Lord for his helpful intervention. I say quite simply again that 3D-printed firearms are captured by existing firearms legislation. If a 3D-printed firearm is made, it is treated in exactly the same way as any other type of illegal firearm.

So they are covered by the legislation, but the suggestions he made are worthy of consideration. We keep those matters under review. Again, there will be opportunities in this Session to look at those issues as a potential police and crime Bill goes through this House.

Baroness Doocey
LD

My Lords, the barrier for acquiring these weapons has been lowered by advancing technology, with criminals, extremists and everyone else being capable of making these guns in a shed or in their own home.

Does the Minister accept that it is not good enough to rely on a Private Member’s Bill to tighten the law in this area, and that the Government really need to act as a matter of urgency on this?

Lord Hanson of Flint
Lab

I am not aware that the Government are relying on a Private Member’s Bill. There is a Private Member’s Bill coming forward, but it is not a Government-sponsored Bill; it is being undertaken by a Back-Bencher in the House of Commons.

We will reflect on that legislation, look at what is needed and make sure that, if there are loopholes, we tie them up. Ultimately, legislation is there to say that firearms are illegal, and there are severe penalties for the ownership and distribution of those illegal firearms.

If there are gaps in the legislation along the lines that noble Lords have mentioned, we will review that in due course next year.

Lord Murray of Blidworth
Con

My Lords, noble Lords have heard the strong view of the House, from the noble Lords, Lord Harris and Lord Hogan-Howe, among others, that there is a gap in the criminal canon for the downloading of software to make 3D-printed firearms.

Clearly, it would be appropriate for the Home Office immediately to launch a consultation on making it an offence to download the software to create 3D-printed firearms. Will the Minister commit to initiating such a consultation immediately?

Lord Hanson of Flint
Lab

I will take that as a representation to the Government about their proposals for next year. The Government are exploring all legislative options to criminalise the possession and supply of 3D-printed firearms templates.

We are looking at that now; I hope the noble Lord will have patience in this matter.

Lord Hanson of Flint
Lab

The question of hybrid weapons, again, is covered by existing legislation, in the sense that it is an offence carrying a penalty of life imprisonment to distribute them, and an offence carrying a penalty of between five and 10 years’ imprisonment to hold and own them.

If the hybrid nature of firearms is being developed, that again is an issue that we are currently looking at, currently examining. There is a Private Member’s Bill in the House of Commons for consideration in January.

The Government will respond to that Private Member’s Bill and will reflect on the points made in both this House and the House of Commons.

Baroness Berridge
Con

My Lords, I had the pleasure of doing a Private Member’s Bill with the late Sir David Amess, which dealt with the supply of machinery that could manufacture, for instance, counterfeit passports.

Building on the points made by the noble Lord, Lord Hogan-Howe, when we look at this matter, could we make sure that we look also at any 3D printing of bullets—which is apparently at the cusp of being possible —as well as handguns?

Lord Hanson of Flint
Lab

Absolutely. Again, I am in danger of repeating myself to the House. Those matters are under consideration. The Government will review all legislation.

Again, the Government’s main aim is to strengthen what we already have: a penalty of life imprisonment for the illegal manufacture and distribution of weapons, and a penalty of five to 10 years for the holding of an illegal weapon. We are keeping these matters under review.

I hope the House can hear what I say and understand the consideration that we are making.

Lord Hampton
CB

My Lords, as a design and technology teacher with four 3D printers in his department, I am fully aware of the advantages and limitations of 3D printing.

Does the Minister agree with me that, rather than concentrating on a tiny number of potential weapons, it would be better to look at hunting knives on the streets as a far more dangerous thing?

Lord West of Spithead
Lab

My Lords, my noble friend the Minister will remember that, when we were in the Home Office, I put huge pressure on identifying and stopping the production of bullets, and bullets became the real focus—because without the bullets, of course, the guns are pretty useless.

Could I add my concern that, if they start printing bullets, it will become rather different and we will need to look at this in a very different way, because that would be extremely serious?

Lord Hanson of Flint
Lab

How could I forget my years in the Home Office with my noble friend? We spent 2009-10 in the Home Office sharing opposite offices; it was a fascinating and enjoyable experience. My noble friend makes some very valid points. Again, I am in danger of repeating myself.

The issues that the House is bringing to my attention about the potential manufacture of bullets, guns and hybrid guns are currently, potentially, covered by existing legislation. If they are not, we will review that in the light of Private Members’ Bills, discussions and representations.

There are opportunities to continue that discussion further.

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