11 Feb
Question
Mental Health Services

The session focused on the critical need for improvement in mental health services in the UK, with members raising concerns about current provisions and presenting strategies for future improvements. Questions revolved around the Government's commitment to recruiting additional mental health workers, enhancing access to mental health resources in educational settings, and integrating services at community levels. Several speakers highlighted the disparity between mental health demands and the resources allocated, calling for restored focus on mental health targets and budget commitments.

Outcome

The Government acknowledged the challenges within mental health services and committed to several key strategies, such as the recruitment of 8,500 mental health workers and the establishment of mental health specialists in schools. The debate solidified the Government's understanding of ongoing issues and reiterated their focus on effective allocation rather than increasing targets. No legislative changes or immediate policy enactments were concluded, but multiple commitments were reinforced by the Government regarding workforce improvements and integrated care models.

Key Contributions

Munira WilsonMP
Liberal Democrats

Questioned steps taken to improve access to mental health services.

Stephen KinnockMinister

Highlighted Government's neutral stance on the End of Life Bill.

Jen CraftMP
Labour

Praised Thurrock hospital's success in integrating care and invited Minister to visit.

Jeremy HuntMP
Conservative

Acknowledged success of Mersey Care in reducing inpatient suicides.

Andrew CooperMP
Labour

Raised concerns about limited access to CAMHS.

Layla MoranMP
Liberal Democrats

Discussed burden of mental health on NHS and budget issues.

Chris VinceMP
Labour

Addressed mental health support for NHS frontline staff.

Helen MorganMP
Liberal Democrats

Critiqued dropped mental health targets and long waiting lists.

Original Transcript
Munira Wilson
Twickenham
LD
Question
UIN: 902678

2. What steps his Department is taking to improve access to mental health services.

The Minister for Care
Stephen Kinnock

After 14 years of Tory neglect and incompetence, we inherited a broken NHS, and nowhere is that more apparent than in our mental health services. Too many people are waiting too long to access the care they need.

To fix that, we will recruit 8,500 more mental health workers; provide access to specialist mental health professionals in every school, as the hon. Member has called for; roll out Young Futures hubs in communities; and modernise the Mental Health Act 1983.

Munira Wilson

With the Terminally Ill Adults (End of Life) Bill being amended to include a panel that will involve psychiatrists who will determine whether a request for assisted dying should be granted, as well as a number of cross-party amendments rightly calling for the involvement of mental health professionals earlier in the process, what assessment have Ministers made of whether there is sufficient capacity in mental health services, which the Minister has just noted are overstretched, to meet those demands, and on the potential knock-on impact on both waiting times and treatments for those with mental health conditions?

Stephen Kinnock

The hon. Lady will know that the Government’s position on the Terminally Ill Adults (End of Life) Bill is one of neutrality. I am on the Bill Committee simply to speak about the Government’s position on the workability and operationalisation of the Bill.

We look forward to seeing the amendment that will be brought forward by my hon. Friend the Member for Spen Valley (Kim Leadbeater).

Any comment we make or position we take will be based on the operationalisation of that amendment, should it become part of the Bill and, ultimately, should the Bill gain Royal Assent.

Jen Craft
Thurrock
Lab

Thurrock community hospital does fantastic work on integrated care, particularly on integrated mental health care.

On a visit, representatives said that what makes the hospital successful is a commitment to working across integrated care boards, the local authority and other relevant partners in the community, as well as a commitment to meeting people where they are, finding out what is important for them and working from there.

Does the Minister see that model as integral to the reform of mental health care in this country? Will he join me on a visit to Thurrock community hospital to see what it does and what can be learned from how that work is undertaken?

Stephen Kinnock

My hon. Friend is a doughty campaigner on this issue in her constituency. She is right that the integration of services is crucial to ensuring that we get the best possible outcomes for people who are struggling with their mental health.

I would be very happy to discuss with her the possibility of me visiting her constituency.

Jeremy Hunt
Godalming and Ash
Con

Is the Minister aware of the brilliant work done by Mersey Care NHS foundation trust in reducing in-patient mental health suicides to zero, which is an extraordinary achievement.

Under a former Health Secretary, who may be standing not a million miles away from where I am standing now, that became an objective for all mental health in-patient units across the NHS. Will the Minister look into whether that objective still stands? If not, can it be reinstated?

Stephen Kinnock
00:00

I am not familiar with the detail of the case that the right hon. Gentleman mentions, but it sounds like a positive and interesting development, and I would be happy to consider it further.

The Government are committed to delivering the cross-sector suicide prevention strategy for England, published in 2023. The 8,500 new mental health workers who we will recruit will be specially trained to support people at risk.

Andrew Cooper
Mid Cheshire
Lab
00:00

I am regularly contacted by constituents who are concerned that their children are not receiving the mental health care they need.

Having met GPs in Winsford, I know that there are clear concerns that access to child and adolescent mental health services is being rationed to the point that it has become almost inaccessible to all but the most severe cases. Will my hon.

Friend tell me what progress has been made towards our commitment to provide specialist mental health professionals in schools, ensuring that there is early intervention that prevents issues from escalating?

Stephen Kinnock

After the disastrous 14 years that we have had, we are facing a very serious situation in terms of mental health provision. It will take some time to get the workforce in place, but we have a clear commitment to having a specialist in every school.

The appointment and training of those specialists will take some time. We are also rolling out open-access Young Futures hubs in every community. I am confident that the combination of those two interventions will get us back to having mental health services that this country can be truly proud of.

Mr Speaker
00:00

I call the Chair of the Health and Social Care Committee.

Layla Moran
Oxford West and Abingdon
LD
00:00

I welcome the Under-Secretary of State for Health and Social Care, the hon. Member for West Lancashire (Ashley Dalton), to her place. I look forward to working with her, as I do with other Ministers.

As the Minister for Care will know, 20% of the burden on the NHS is due to mental health, yet only 10% of the budget is allocated towards it. The mental health investment standard has been a welcome maintenance under this Government.

However, the Select Committee heard from Amanda Pritchard the other day that the standard is guaranteed for only the next two years. Does the Minister agree that the standard has had a positive effect on mental health community services, and would he commit to protecting it?

Chris Vince
Harlow
Lab/Co-op
00:00

I thank the Minister for his continued commitment to supporting mental health in this country. Does he also recognise that mental health involves supporting NHS frontline staff? I had the wonderful opportunity of spending time with the East of England ambulance service on Saturday morning.

They work incredibly long hours and work incredibly hard. Obviously, we need to think about their mental health as well.

Stephen Kinnock

We in this Chamber should, whenever possible, pay tribute to the people providing those frontline services, who every day work heroically in very difficult circumstances. My hon. Friend is absolutely right about the pressures on the workforce—we are very conscious of that.

We will bring forward a workforce plan in the summer, and we are working at pace to recruit the 8,500 mental health workers.

Mr Speaker
00:00

I call the Liberal Democrat spokesperson.

Helen Morgan
North Shropshire
LD
00:00

Last week, the Secretary of State issued a new mandate for the NHS in which a number of mental health targets were dropped.

I accept that targets that drive perverse behaviours should be dropped and that some sharpened focus is necessary, but mental health waiting lists are at a record high, huge numbers of people are not at work because of poor mental health, and our young people are being let down badly by CAMHS, not least in my constituency of North Shropshire.

Does the Secretary of State accept that mental health targets should be reinstated and that mental health should be treated with equal priority to physical health?

Stephen Kinnock

What we know about targets is that if we try to overload a system with too many targets, it causes confusion and ends up with, as the hon. Lady rightly says, perverse outcomes.

We are clear that we do not want to have a system based on just making policy by press release, as was the case under the previous Government, putting out press announcements about loads more targets.

It all makes for nice front-page headlines, but it does not lead to any serious delivery of the strategy that we need to deliver. I am with her on the point about focus. We are absolutely committed to mental health, as is set out in the planning guidance.

It is also one of the priorities in the planning guidance, and we will continue to deliver on that priority.

All content derived from official parliamentary records