To ask His Majesty’s Government what assessment they have made of the net £9.6 billion decline in investment in UK funds in the London Stock Exchange in 2024.

My Lords, there has been a net decline in investment in UK funds for the past nine consecutive years. This is, of course, a matter of concern, although this does reflect global trends, and the outflow in 2024 was £2.5 billion less than in 2023.

The UK’s capital markets remain some of the strongest and deepest in the world, and the UK is a leading centre for international capital raising, last year raising over £20 billion of equity capital—more than the next three European exchanges combined.

My Lords, I was very glad to visit the stock exchange this week with other parliamentarians from the Industry and Parliament Trust. The stock exchange is important to national economic welfare.

It is therefore unfortunate that the Government have scrapped the last Government’s plan for a tax-free Great British ISA, incentivising savers to invest in British stocks and shares. How does the Minister intend now to encourage people, including first-time investors, to invest in such shares?

My Lords, when the Government chose not to follow the overwhelming response calling to exempt listed investment companies, otherwise known as listed funds, from consumer collective investments and to refer them to the Financial Conduct Authority consultation, did they realise that it would cost another £30 billion in lost investment?

Did the Government realise that their interim solution, which the FCA is not enforcing, is a short-term solution and cannot give confidence to what are long-term investors and investments?

Does the Minister agree that correct arithmetic cannot be a matter for consultation, and will he facilitate my meeting with officials to explain that beneath the jargon, smoke and mirrors, this issue is a simple matter of correct arithmetic?

I am grateful to the noble Baroness for her question, and once again, I pay tribute to her for her campaigning on this issue.

The Government absolutely recognise the key role the investment company sector plays in the UK economy; it represents over 30% of the FTSE 250 and invests in assets that support the Government’s growth agenda.

We have listened carefully to the noble Baroness’s concerns, not least through her campaigning in the previous Parliament and her Private Member’s Bill in this Parliament.

Last year we legislated, I think as a direct result of her campaigning, to reform retail disclosure, with the FCA launching a consultation on an entire replacement regime in December.

My Lords, I am sure the Minister is aware that the tax-dodging fast-fashion firm Shein, having been rejected in New York, is now apparently seeking to list on the London Stock Exchange.

Does the Minister agree with Liam Byrne, the chair of the Business and Trade Committee, who wrote to LSE asking if it agreed that it was important that firms seeking to list on the exchange have safeguards against forced labour in their products?

The decision on whether a firm can list in the UK is a matter for the independent regulator, the FCA, subject to a firm meeting its listing rules and relevant disclosure requirements.

My Lords, the chief beneficiary of the loss of business from London has been New York, where companies are not subject to stamp duty. Is the Minister’s department prepared to consider lifting this handicap from the London Stock Exchange to give us more of an equal chance?

My Lords, the London Stock Exchange suffered its biggest exit in a decade in 2024, with 88 companies moving out of the market compared with 18 new listings. The drop in liquidity and trading activity began with the 2008 financial crash but accelerated significantly with Brexit.

We all want a rebound, but will the Government take the necessary steps to rebuild liquidity by strengthening our relationship with the EU? A customs union would be a good first step; as one investor said to me, “Outside of the EU, why choose London over New York?

I am grateful to the noble Baroness for her question, and she knows I agree with her analysis of the effects of Brexit.

Firms may, of course, choose to list in other countries for a variety of reasons, and the Government appreciate that there is a perception that firms, especially tech firms, will have larger valuations in the US.

We are determined to change that perception, which is why the Government are taking forward an ambitious programme of reforms to boost the attractiveness of UK markets and to support firms to start, scale, list and, importantly, stay here.

As she knows, through the Government’s work on the EU reset, we will absolutely strengthen our relationship with the European Union.

Does the Minister know that Australian pension funds invest 80% in Australia? Thirty years ago in this country, it was 40%, and in earlier years it was 60% and 70%. It seems to me that the situation is rather more serious than just “looking at further ways”.

Does the Minister agree that if we really are to attract more FDI and sovereign wealth funds and create an attractive centre for high-innovation investment in this country, we need something a little beefier than what he has indicated so far?

I am grateful to the noble Lord for his question, and I agree with every word he said. We have been very guided by the Australian experience. We have been clear that UK pension funds are investing a lot less in the domestic economy than overseas counterparts.

Australia and Canada are two that have been spoken about.

He talks about beefier measures, but the pensions review is the most fundamental review of pensions for a generation, and it is actively considering what further interventions may be needed by the Government to ensure that our reforms to the UK pension system benefit UK growth.

The noble Lord says that the corporation tax is uncompetitive, but it is where his Government put it. We have said that we will cap it at that level for the remainder of this Parliament; it is one of the most competitive in the G7.

We have also said that if it looks uncompetitive at any point, we will act.

My Lords, can the noble Lord enlighten the House on the conversations his department has had with UK pension funds on the barriers to them investing in the UK? What sort of concerns do they express, and what are the Government doing to overcome them?

As I have already set out, that is exactly what the pension review is looking at: identifying those barriers and why UK pension funds invest less in the UK than their overseas counterparts. The consultation is currently live and we will feed back on it in due course.

My Lords, can the Minister tell us why, in opposition, the Labour Party proposed that it would follow the French Tibi approach to pension investment when they got into government, but since getting in, it has decided not to mandate investment from pension funds?

As I say, the pension review is considering whether further government intervention may be needed to ensure that our reforms to the UK pension system benefit UK growth.

Of course, throughout this process, we will continue to work with the pensions industry to improve saver outcomes and increase investment in UK markets.